Episode 196 // Everyday Tarot with Biddy Tarot

Kathleen Shannon 0:02
Hello and welcome to being boss,

Emily Thompson 0:04
a podcast for creative entrepreneurs. I'm Emily Thompson.

Kathleen Shannon 0:08
And I'm Kathleen Shannon.

Brigit Esselmont 0:10
My name is Bridget SMR and I'm being boss.

Emily Thompson 0:18
In this episode of being boss, we're talking about everyday Tarot with Bridget Esslemont. As always, you can find all the tools books and links we reference on the show notes at WWW dot being boss dot club.

Kathleen Shannon 0:33
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Emily Thompson 1:48
Bridget Esslemont is a professional tarot reader and teacher, intuitive business coach and spiritual entrepreneur. She is the founder of Biddy Tarot and inspires over 4 million people each year to live more mindful and enlightened lives using the Tarot as a guide. As self confessed, Tarot lover Bridget can't help but spread the love to other Tarot enthusiasts. She teaches aspiring terror readers how to read Tarot with confidence and she helps Tarot professionals build their own business empires that are aligned with their sole purpose. When she's not reading Tarot, Bridget loves spending time with her two daughters and husband on the Sunshine Coast and Australia.

Kathleen Shannon 2:32
Bridget, we're so excited to have you back on the show. I think that you're one of our top repeat guests, which officially makes you a boss girlfriend.

Brigit Esselmont 2:42
Oh, I'm super super excited. I was thinking yet three times maybe I am like one of the only folks who've been on here for three times. So I absolutely appreciate it. And I love chatting with you guys. Super fun.

Emily Thompson 2:53
Well, I am doing what I'm turning into a tradition with you. I think the last time we recorded we started the episode with me pulling a card. And Kathleen and I tried to decipher it for ourselves and remembering we have Biddy Tarot on the podcast, we should probably let her do it. So I'm going to pull a card.

Unknown Speaker 3:14
If you don't mind, go for it.

Emily Thompson 3:16
I mean, we'll go from there. I hope is not a really scary one. Here we go. I know me too. All right, I have the four of cups.

Kathleen Shannon 3:25
What does that mean for us? And our conversation?

Brigit Esselmont 3:28
Is those that were the intention that you had in mind, Emily, when you were pulling the card? So what like the context for today? Yes, yes. All right. So interesting. Like the four of cups for me is kind of like choosing your opportunities. So oftentimes you have things presented to you. And for whatever reason, you may say yes or no to them. And sometimes we say yes or no to those opportunities kind of more out of apathy or not really jelling with stuff, or even being a little bit despondent in some ways. Other times though, we can be a little bit more discerning, and we're making those choices based on emotional needs. And kind of what we're feeling at the moment. So it's just it's an interesting one to see come up and thinking about what you're saying. Yes, and low to what do you see Emily because you've got the card right in front of you. I always encourage folks to really check in with the imagery and what it means for you.

Emily Thompson 4:28
I agree with this. She's sitting with four cups, two are in front of her to her behind her also to our like, where she's sitting in to err on the ground. I see that as like a myriad of choices and she's seems to be hanging she seems to be making her choice of one of them, and there's no difference between any of them by any means. She also seems a little she honestly seems little like I guess emotionally separated from the choice. She just kind of like I guess I'll take this one. No, yeah, it's it's very much. So maybe we have some questions laid out for you today.

Unknown Speaker 5:15
Are those a bunch of birds flying above her head? Or is that shushes gold

Emily Thompson 5:19
foil decorations? Oh,

Kathleen Shannon 5:21
okay, so it looks like a bunch of birds flying, but it's actually gold foil. So I'm in take this card as meaning that no matter what I choose yes or no, gold is going to be falling on my head in the best way.

Emily Thompson 5:39
I agree with that. I agree with that one. We'll take that one. So perfect, then, let's go at these questions. But I think as usual, we will say yes or no to them as they come along and follow the conversation wherever it goes. So thank you, Bridget, for hanging out with us today. Let's dive in.

Kathleen Shannon 5:58
I think that this is such a great way to even open this show. Because something that you and I Emily do often is pull a tarot card whenever we're having conversations with publishers and which one to go with. or whenever we're really struggling with a certain decision and need to see things that we can't quite see or need a different perspective on it will pull a card or pull a spread on it. And so we have learned how to use Tarot in this way a lot from you, Bridget, you have been such a guiding voice, and really using Tarot in really practical ways and blending that kind of spirituality and trust that comes with it. And the guidance that comes with it with very, very practical things. So with that, tell us what you've been up to and what you've been working on.

Brigit Esselmont 6:49
So over the last year, I've been creating a new book called everyday Tarot, unlock your inner wisdom and manifest your future. And, you know, when it's funny, this whole book journey, and I've been I know very much about yours, too. It's gone for years. So I had a number of book agents reach out to me over the last few years going, come on, reach out, write a book, write a book, and I'm like, No, thanks. Nope, too much work. No, already done that with the self publishing. And eventually, as I got it, you know, this is getting annoying. This must be like an intuitive message or something. So I finally said yes. And when I got to thinking about what kind of book do I want to write, I did a bit of research, I looked at other Tarot books. And what I found was that most Tarot books had either all the tarot card meanings, or here's how do you do three card reading. He's had to shuffle the cards. And I thought, Oh, it's been done before. That's not not, that's not me. And I really wanted to get in touch with the way that I am in relationship with Tarot. And just like I said, Kathleen, I am so practical, down to earth, grounded and spiritual at the same time. And I knew that for me to be fully authentic in this book, it had to be about how I bring terror into my everyday. And so the book that I've written is, it's divided up into multiple chapters, obviously, that's a book. But it's deal is hard book.

Unknown Speaker 8:21
pages.

Brigit Esselmont 8:25
So in these different chapters, we've got things like Terry for self discovery, which I just find super juicy. And I've put that you know, right at the start, because that's where it's at. That's how I love using Terry for really digging in deep and almost holding up a mirror, to our soul to really reflect and see what's going on inside of ourselves. Because all of the answers that we need everything that we're seeking, like what we think externally, we're seeking, it's actually all inside of us, and the cards just reflecting that back into you. And I also believe that once we're in full alignment with who we really are, and we're in our you know, Authenticity, that's when other things like relationships, Korea, finances, all of that stuff starts to come into flow. So there are other chapters around relationships, whether you're in relationship with yourself, which we all are, or you're starting a new relationship, or you're in, you know, a 10 plus year relationship and how you can deepen that. The Taro for Korea, when I was writing that it was really interesting, because as you know, like, I'm an entrepreneur, I love the freedom. But most people are in a nine to five regular job and I thought, I've got to write this for like everybody else. And so I start writing. I'm writing things like, you know, here's how to ask for a pay rise. Here's how to please your boss, and he felt so out of integrity with me. I'm writing and going, Oh, this is how you do it. And then like, I didn't enjoy it much at all. And then my editor wrote back, she's like, Bridget, no, you got to redo this. Everything else. Awesome. This chapter No. And it was such an interesting process because I had to really get into connection with how can I feel authentic in writing this chapter, but also speak to the my audience, which is a wide range of people. And eventually I landed on, you know, career is very much about knowing where your superpowers are, where your talents are, where you were zone of genius, and then applying that in the work that you're doing. So it doesn't really matter if you're an admin Clark, you know, working part time, or you're a nurse, or you're an entrepreneur or CEO of a company, it doesn't really matter, so long as the work that you are doing is in alignment with who you are. And you are almost like channeling your purpose, your mission in your vision through your work. So that's how that chapter landed.

Kathleen Shannon 10:47
Okay, can we pause here for a second, because this is so exciting to me. I feel like we're a part of that tribe that really talks about how amazing creative entrepreneurship is, and the freedom that comes with it, and how we wouldn't trade it in for the world. But at the same time, I think that there's a similar energy that you can have, whether you're working for a corporation or a small business, or for somebody else, or for yourself. And whenever you can get that energy aligned, it almost doesn't matter. Like it's all kind of the same. And it's all going to open opportunities or closed doors, depending on your attitude and your energy that you bring to it. So I guess my question for you whenever it comes to this chapter, and even maybe the last chapter is, whenever it comes to the structure of this book, and maybe this is mean nerding out like as someone who's written a book, but are there are there Tarot spreads in it? Or are there different archetypes that are describing energies from the deck that you can tune into as you're thinking about things? these things? Like, how does it relate back to the Tarot?

Brigit Esselmont 11:52
Yeah, so there are definitely quite a few Tarot spreads in there. But what I wanted to do was, I didn't want it just to be a book of spreads. Like that's easy. And it's not really how I work with Tarot. I don't go, oh, what spreadsheet I use today. And I sit down and I pull out the cards and go reading done that's like, I don't read Tarot that way often. The way that I read Tarot is I'm often going through my own kind of process that might be journaling about something. And once I hit a roadblock, I'll pull a card to see where how I'm like, if I can go deeper. So there's activities in this book where it might start off with, you know, you're doing bad visualization, and visualizing the energy say, around your career, and then pulling cards to help you go deeper. So there's these beautiful processes that aren't just about sit down, do tarot reading, but it's about really get into the space of understanding your career better, or your relationships or you know, your relationship with yourself. So that's where like, this is where I just hope the magic is happening in this book. Because I really want people to go beyond just sit down, do tarot reading. It's kind of like phase one. It's awesome. If you're doing that love it. And if you want to integrate Tarot, but more importantly, intuition into your life, it's all about having it, it's just a normal part of your process. And just like you guys are saying, you know, you jump off a call with someone you pull the card? Of course you do, because it's just part of your process of evaluating and, you know, assessing, like, is this the right fit for us? And is it the only way that you're assessing that? No, because it's like, we look at life holistically. And our intuition is one part of it. So is our, you know, critical analytical thinking. And that's an important part, too. So,

Kathleen Shannon 13:39
I love that you mentioned this too, because I feel like my biggest beef with Taro from time to time is that I'm like, Yeah, I get it. Either it is or it isn't, you know, and sometimes I feel like the cards can be kind of almost double sided, where it could mean this. But it could also mean the total opposite thing. Yeah, what I mean, then it really is digging into your intention, what you came to it with what you're really seeing in the imagery, and really discerning and finding that meaning for yourself. So maybe this is the same reason why tarot cards can't necessarily predict your future. But it also means that you're going to have to bring a certain amount of, I don't know decisiveness or interpretation to the to the reading, right? Is that what you're saying? or?

Brigit Esselmont 14:25
Yeah, well, actually, with that, it's, this is why it's so important to set up sacred space before you do a reading, right? So if we go into a reading going, come on cards, tell me that this publisher is awesome. And they're gonna give me a book deal. That's like amazing. If you go into it with that attitude, and then you get like, maybe the four of cups. You're gonna feel a little bit like what what do you see? Sure. Oh, she is taking that copy. Yes. Okay. It is the offer. Yes. Right.

Kathleen Shannon 14:56
So basically just described what I look like whenever I'm doing And Tara,

Emily Thompson 15:01
like, gold is raining down on me.

Brigit Esselmont 15:05
Karen, all those gold specs, oh, that's every $100,000 I'm gonna get No. Sorry, you're setting up this sacred space, clearing our mind setting a pure intention getting it and it also like really just getting back in touch with our source our source energy. That's That's pure essence. That is where all of the truest answers come from when we've got ego like shading things, or you're off on a different tangent, so really important to reconnect to that source energy that's within yourself to really embody that channel, and then go into a reading because that's going to switch away all of the ego side of things. And you'll get a much clearer answer. Without also without attachment. That's the other important thing not being attached to having a certain answer. That said, I have to share with you an example. I think I've shared this in the book, too. When I had the proposal out, and you know how it goes, you get back a few publishers making offers at the end, or you have an interview with them, and then they give you an offer. So I had the interviews and with three publishers. And the first one was with the publisher, I thought this would be pretty awesome. Have the meeting. It was amazing. And then I pulled a card afterwards, it was like the three of swords. I'm like, what, what is this? Oh, this is silly, but I put the card away. And then for the other two publishers, I drew like more, I guess more positive cards, like one was the nine of cups actually. And I thought, you know what, they were good meetings. But I really want this first publisher, right. And then when it came to them giving, making the book deals, it all came to fruition that first publisher who I thought we had an awesome connection with, gave a not so great deal. And it was the three of swords moment, I was like kind of flabbergasted because thinking we had such a good meeting what's going on. And then the running press, obviously that's who I've gone with, you know, they were nine of cups. And once I fully understood their position and how they're going to work with the book. I knew that they got it and the you know, they made a very generous offer. And I was like yes. Okay, that originally, I was going What are these cards? No. Put them away. I almost completely forgot about them. But yeah, it always comes back sets clear mind very important when you have a terror rating.

Emily Thompson 17:30
Right I love I love the idea of this book. And I haven't seen it yet. I can't wait to hold it in my hands and Instagram and all of these things. But it definitely sounds like this is this book is quite different in a lot of ways from most of the other Tarot books, you'll pick up at your bookstore or whatever, where you just like telling the meanings of the cards, which is the book you've written, you self publish that book, this is really about using it. I want to know why. Why this book? Why are you wanting to go in this direction with how it is that you are teaching Tarot?

Brigit Esselmont 18:05
Yes, so my mission, My vision is to bring terror into the mainstream and have new and more modern and intelligent conversations about Tarot and intuition. I think for too long we've seen Taro is it's kind of like fortune telling tool that, you know, maybe it's a little bit evil. Maybe it's a little bit naughty, maybe it's a little bit, you know, like a cult, which it can be all of those things. But in my mind, it's not, it's something completely different. So for me, this book is about getting out that message that terror can be for anyone and everyone and it's totally accessible. You don't have to be a master or an expert. You don't have to know the esoteric systems that go behind Tarot. If you do, that's awesome, but you don't have to. And I think also my choice of publisher reaffirms that too, I think it's talking with Tori Hartman, who created the chakra wisdom Oracle deck. And she was like, you know, really interesting choice of publisher because you could have gone with like Llewellyn, which are very, you know, well known for producing books on terror and other new age things. But, you know, you've chosen running press, which are very, like broad, you know, mainstream imprint, and I'm like, yeah, that's because I want this in the mainstream. I'm not talking just Terry. I'm talking life. And, you know, I'm talking about here's how you can live like that more enriching, conscious life. And Terry just happens to be a tool that will support you in doing that.

Kathleen Shannon 19:33
So one of the things that I've been challenged with whenever it comes to my own practice with Tarot is that there have been times in my life where I'm pulling a card every single day and really using it to set an intention or even have a journaling prompt. And I love that. Lately, I've moved a little bit away from that probably because I have been bringing too much ego to my every day draw and showering goals.

Emily Thompson 20:00
showering showering gold.

Kathleen Shannon 20:02
But I have been coming back to it more on probably a quarterly basis and really using it in this big picture way, whenever I'm really struggling with making hard decisions, and it has been incredibly insightful and impactful in that way. And so I'm just curious to hear from you. Kind of maybe even the logistics of balancing some of those bigger picture. Okay, Taro, okay deck, I really need you to bring it for me here, not in an ego way. But like, this is really I'm making some decisions, or I'm looking, I'm trying to look at more of a big picture vision with this read versus this, like, every day, I just need to see what energy I'm bringing to my day kind of read. And so I'm curious how maybe you personally balanced those or how some of your clients have balanced that, that balance between these big picture and daily reads?

Brigit Esselmont 20:58
Yeah, it's interesting, because I kind of ebb and flow too. So sometimes I'm really into doing the daily read, and I can do it quite regularly. And then I was like, Oh, no, with that, I don't need that right now. And then other times, I might get right into the lunar cycles. I love doing Teru with the full moon and the new moon super, super interesting and juicy stuff can come out of that. And so you know, in everyday Tarot book, that's an awesome full moon and new moon rituals with the cards. So check it out.

Kathleen Shannon 21:29
Do you have those just for like any new moon or full moon? Or do you specify like full moon and Leo? Sorry? I like to keep it general. Yeah, I was gonna say sometimes I can get really overwhelming. And if you are bringing her to the mainstream, that's like some next level stuff. Yeah, exactly.

Brigit Esselmont 21:47
It's funny. I was teaching a group of students yesterday, and we started delving into Tarot and astrology. I'm like, oh, man, this is just getting way too detailed. For me. It's not like that's not my area of expertise. So I really like to keep it light, practical, easy to use. Now, let me just get back to the question around. Yeah, big picture readings versus kind of like everyday regular readings. When I do like more of a big picture reading, you know, like you, I might do it and say, for my business when I'm doing as six month planning session, or I did one on my birthday a few months ago. And that was really insightful. The way I go about it is I'm looking at like, carving out some time to do it. It's not one of those just like, Oh, I have five minutes, let's pull some quick cards. I really set aside time, I will really prepare myself for that reading, whether it's even just going out into nature, just to ground myself first and just calm down, get my thoughts cleared, then I might set an intention, I might journal to begin with, I really think that's the most powerful way of working with Tarot is to start with your intuition first, and then use the cards to further extract information from your intuition, if that makes sense. Because the practice of

Emily Thompson 23:04
doing that like that, but that sounds like a smart idea.

Brigit Esselmont 23:10
Because what it what it does is it reaffirms that it's your intuition working, it's not these external things outside of you these little tarot cards that are doing the work, it's you actually doing the work and your intuition doing the work. And so when you start with your intuition, you're reaffirming that.

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Kathleen Shannon 24:17
So can I share an experience I had I was having a big reading and I really prepped for it big time. So Emily had sent me some awesome handmade bath salts that she had created. So I took a bath and these amazing bath salts, and then I journaled a little bit at my table. I like lit some candles, maybe lit some incense it was special, but also I have to mention this is like at four in the afternoon, so a good two hours before my husband and kiddo would be home. So it wasn't like all moody and there are some areas where you just can't be too precious about it. I would have loved for the full moon to have already been out so as a full moon reading as during the eclipse the full moon Having an eclipse. And so I go into my reading, meditating, I'm pulling my cards. And then I was kind of meditating on the cards. And it just started pouring and lightning and thundering and all this rain started coming down. There was no weather in the forecast. And then by the time I was like, done meditating and coming out of it, and really journaling on the cards, the sun was out and birds were chirping. I mean, it was like a full cycle. And I was like, Okay, this is real. That is also my husband came on me. He's like, did you see that rain? I was like, Yeah, I made that happen. That's what happens in a REIT. Meditate.

Emily Thompson 25:44
As I say, there's no ego. anything going on here at all at all? Right? I think that i think that that is an important, I think you're making an important point here, though. And that is on some level, doing big picture tarot readings like that, I think there has to be some preparation, you have to like, really center yourself, find your like a place where you can really get in touch with your intuition, in order to do some of those big picture things. But not all Tarot has to be all bath soaks and incense like it can be as easy as just pulling a card before you get on a phone call with friends or whatever it may be. And I think I think quite often people get stuck in one of those where they're either going to be super flippant about it and not really understand like, what all it can do for you. Or you're going to be way too into the ritual side and not understand how every day Taro can really help you stay connected as well.

Brigit Esselmont 26:47
Yeah, and I think I mean, I remember like when I was younger, just starting the tower, and I was reading about all these rituals and the incantations that I was like, How on earth am I going to remember, like, how to call him the directions and all of these kinds of things. And it started freaking me out. And I thought, right, I'm just not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. But what I've discovered now is that our ritual is our own. And you know, Kathleen, like you chose that you'd have a bath, and you'd manifest a beautiful thunderstorm. That's your ritual. It could be as simple as your ritual might just simply be closing your eyes and taking a few deep breaths. It's really important that you don't let it get in the way. It's, it's an important piece of reading Tarot and clearing your mind, but don't get like too caught up in it. And I think that's the same with Tarot. Overall, it's just don't take it. I don't like saying this, I want to say like, Don't take it too seriously. I think do take it seriously, because the messages in there are real and true and authentic. But Don't go, don't be so attached to having to be a certain way or having to do things in a certain way.

Kathleen Shannon 27:55
I totally agree. It's almost like saying don't don't take anything so seriously, life in general, we can have fun and we can play with it. And I think that Tarot is just a reflection of any aspects of life, as you've outlined in your book. I have a question. Actually, speaking of the thunderstorm that happened, it was almost like this wink of synchronicity, and for me, synchronicity always feels like a little wink from the universe that allows me to actually have faith that there is something maybe bigger going on whether or not it's true. that's beside the point. For me, it feels special and it feels like I said, like a little wink. And so I love pulling a card, especially if I'm using an N deck with animals in it and then seeing where those animals begin to show up. And so and this might even extend beyond Tarot, but I'm curious from you, Bridget. Do you play with synchronicities at all? Do you notice them happening and does that play into Tarot at all?

Brigit Esselmont 28:57
Yeah, absolutely. So I think the synchronicities happen when you're switched on. So oftentimes, we can rush through life we don't even you know, like sometimes you just go through think to even stop at that red light. I don't know. I hope so. Because we're not paying attention but when we do pay attention, and we're in tune then we do see these beautiful synchronicities you know, you could have been all like, you know, holed up in the, in the house and not even caring about what's going on because he's so focused on the cards and you want it to tell you a certain thing, in which case, you wouldn't have even noticed what the weather was doing. But you are switched on and your awareness had gone from kind of those blinkers to a full awareness which that to me that's being in touch with your pure source energy is that full extended expanded awareness where there is no limitation there is no boundary and that's where you see all these beautiful synchronicities. It's also I believe, it's where you can start to see through the matrix. So we're getting a bit Wait here.

Kathleen Shannon 29:55
Wait, say more. Tell me more. I'm I'm being dead serious. What

Unknown Speaker 29:58
are you talking about?

Brigit Esselmont 30:00
I don't know if you have these experiences, but sometimes you know, you can see the world around you and you know, you see trees grass, what's what I see right now. But when you're in this full expanded awareness, you start to see more like, sure it's not a physical thing, but you start to feel into energy of something you start to feel into, like, you know, there might be a certain pool. There might be something about ghosts, no.

Unknown Speaker 30:29
No,

Kathleen Shannon 30:30
and not even like energies. Well, yeah, like,

Brigit Esselmont 30:33
I don't know, sometimes you could just even just feel into a day and you really sense into the sunshine and how that makes you feel. You might even be able to, like, walk into a room and get a sense of like, what's the vibe there? I guess those are more sort of tangible experiences.

Kathleen Shannon 30:50
But also, maybe ghosts a little bit.

Brigit Esselmont 30:53
I don't know. I'm not really into ghosts. But if you're into it, you go for it. Okay,

Kathleen Shannon 30:58
I got the best compliment ever this weekend, which was, I don't believe in any of this stuff. But Kathleen, if you told me that you could see ghosts, I would 100% believe you and I was like, that is the best compliment I've ever gotten. I cannot see ghosts. Okay, so coming back to that though, that opening up and seeing more than what's there. And even if it's just noticing a beautiful sunset and it hitting your soul like almost feeling like you're striking a bell in your stomach. That's kind of how it feels for me whenever I can just really not only see the beauty, but it resonates in my core. How can we turn up the volume on that all the time? Because it truly is the best feeling whenever you can tune into synchronicities and is really seeing beauty and feeling it or even energies and maybe that's there's some shadow sides of that too, where you walk into a room and feel bad vibes and know to get out of there or to alchemize that energy and to make it good somehow. And so yeah, synchronicities, picking up vibes and then intuition, like how can we just turn up the volume on all of this? Or should we,

Brigit Esselmont 32:06
huh? Yeah, actually, it said, there's, there's something I share in the book. And it was about my screen about 15 years ago, it's pretty kids. And my husband and I, we went up to Darwin, which is in the north of Australia, and it's known for all sorts of things. But one of the things is, it's beautiful sunsets on the beach. And we thought Great, well go, go see the sunset would be nice, you know, go for a walk, what have you get down to the beach, and there were literally hundreds of people sitting on the beach. And we're thinking, Is there like a, an event going on? Is there you know, a music show or something. But no, everyone's just sitting there on a picnic blanket. And the sun was starting to drop in the sky. And then as the sun got closer and closer to the horizon, people started standing up and facing the sun. And as it went all the way down. Everyone started clapping and celebrating this gorgeous sunset. And it just sent chills up my spine because the sunsets every single day, right? But do we actually even care? Do we even really notice? Oftentimes? No, because I saw in like buisiness, but what this experience reminded me was that they're just as you said, There is beauty everywhere, every single second is, it's around us, but it's up to us to be able to cherish that to honor it and be part of it. And so that experience inspired me then to create a sunrise and a sunset, which will very simple, kind of like an extension of the daily tarot card. But with the sunrise, you know if you can be in front of the sun as it's rising, and pull a tarot card asking, Well, what energy can I bring into my day today? And then as the sun sets, what is it that I'm truly grateful for, you know, as the sun setting, what have What have I created? What have I achieved in this day or in this moment. And so just again, these simple practices is about honoring our intuition ourselves and our involvement in this greater environment that we're in.

Emily Thompson 34:18
This is a perfect example, I think of how it is that you can bring Tarot or even just like mindfulness, just general mindfulness, but obviously Tarot as a tool into every single day and at this point, twice a day, sunrise and sunset. And I think that I think that by living your life in a way that you are taking these moments you can so much more greatly appreciate every single day and that's some powerful stuff like you bring that mainstream. I'm down.

Brigit Esselmont 34:55
Yeah, love it and look at it also it's still alive. Do you to have room for being a grumble balm for having a bad day? Like, we don't have to be in these beautiful, blissful state all of the time. Because I think this is important. Sometimes I hear like, you know, these kind of aspirational calls and I think, are you ever do you ever get like really angry? Do you ever yell at your kids actually do so, like, it's okay to have those moments to have like the absolute bliss, but also the absolute everyday kind of, you know, churn that we have. But if you're finding yourself in a bit of a patch, where it's just, you know, the, the negative stuff is outweighing the positive, just leaned into some of these practices, and it will start to fill your cup again, you don't have to walk around like, you know, you're floating on air all the time, but at least it will help just fill your cup and restore your hope and faith in life. Again,

Kathleen Shannon 35:51
I love that so much. So we've got some Full Moon stuff. We've got some new moon, sunrise, sunset, are there any other rhythms that you're tapping into?

Brigit Esselmont 36:02
Oh, let me think. Do you know it's it's not so much a rhythm, but this is one of my other really favorite easy activities from the book. And it's a self love ritual. And yes, tell us. And in fact, you could probably write, you can end up writing a whole love book to yourself, using these some using these. So I've got my cards here, I'm just going to give them a quick shuffle so I can give you a demonstration. So it's as simple as shuffling your cards, just you know, thinking about yourself and where you're at. And this is a great exercise. If you're feeling really good about yourself. Great, do it. If you're feeling really crappy about yourself, this is also a good time to do it as well. Or even if you're going through a phase where you want to work on your self love. Neat, okay, so when you pull a card and you look at this card, and what you're asking is you're using like a prompt of what do I love about myself? So I have here the king of pentacles. And for this ritual, what I'm saying is I love that I am you know, I love that I'm the boss of my business.

Kathleen Shannon 37:12
Boss. Yeah, and it rain

Brigit Esselmont 37:16
raining raining grapes on this this everyday tarot card? Yes. So, you know, it might be like, you might just go Okay, what are these three things, I love that I'm advice. I love that I know how to handle material things in my life, be it money, Korea, possessions, and so on. And I love that I can step into that King position with you know, my team and my community and so on and really, you know, own that King energy as well. So can I pull a card for you guys, I need you do there is

Kathleen Shannon 37:53
absolutely and while you're reshuffling those and playing cards for us, I want to talk about the design of the park because it is a beautiful, so it's all purples and golds. And the design of the deck itself is really minimal. And I think that if you ever feel overwhelmed by all the imagery that you see in a deck, this this is a really great deck that everyday tarot deck because I think it really simplified some of the imagery where you can really see a few symbols key and on them and translate them.

Brigit Esselmont 38:29
Yeah, absolutely. So Eleanor gross is the illustrator of the everyday tarot deck. And she It was super fun to work with. In fact, she got so psyched about the project, we did 78 cards in two months. Typically, it's like two years, but she did it in two months, she's happy to I just can't stop. I've got to keep going. This is too much fun. And I think that's kind of testament to this magic of Tarot. And, you know, once you get into it, and you get into the vibe of it, it just lifts off. But so our intention when we were designing the deck, yes was to keep it simple to keep it modern. It's based on the rider Waite deck. But when Eleanor and I were working together, I would kind of pull out the symbols of you know, keep these things in this stuff, no extra information. Let's take that out. Because I want people to be able to focus on the things that are most important, while also still having enough detail that you can get into the story of the card because that's a very important technique that I use, and that I teach is to see a story in a card. So we're very mindful of that. We've also done some really neat things around gender. There's more women in the cards and they're in those strong cards too. Like the knight of swords is now a woman it's Athena and she was so awesome. It's one of my favorite cards. queen of cups is a mermaid and king of cups is a merman. I love that. Yeah, it just it really embodies her essence. And also because we're working with Free colors, we're working with a really deep rich purple, a gold and a wide. And we would also bring more, I guess you could say like diversity to the deck, we've got people with purple skin, we've got people with gold skin, and we've got people with white skin. So it's nice to bring a little bit more of that modern element into the cards, whilst not overcomplicating it, that's the important thing. And it's suit. They're their mini cards, but I don't, I think this should be the new size of Terry, because finally they fit my hands perfectly. And I don't have to like concentrate while I'm shuffling. And you know, with them going everywhere, like I do with many of the bigger decks. So yeah, pretty neat. But can I scoot back to the self love card. So Kathleen, I drew this one for you. It's the ace of wands, it's showing a hand holding up a stick with Yes, with some leaves, and lots of good Juju. So Kathleen, I invite you to say I love that I am.

Kathleen Shannon 41:01
I love that I am. Let's see, it almost makes me feel like I'm grabbing opportunities. Like I'm great. I love that I'm grabbing opportunities. What is that on the left side of the card on the opposite side of the hand.

Brigit Esselmont 41:17
Yeah, it's a little castle, which, which for me signifies that you might be at the very beginning. And there's security and safety coming up. And also that feeling of stability, as well, but further in the future. So

Kathleen Shannon 41:32
you know what I'm seeing on that though, because it's on the left side of the card. For me that feels like the past. So it almost feels like I love that I'm willing to take new adventures and to leave home. Yeah, but also maybe that the future is bright. And then also the one with the way that the leaves are it makes me think of seasons and living with the seasons and being in tuned and embracing and loving the changes that come with spring and summer and then the dropping of the leaves in the fall. So that's what I would say I love my ability to go to try new things. I love my ability to adapt and change. I hammer the first one grab opportunities. Yeah, yeah. Awesome. And maybe even in, even in like almost a spiritual way like the wands is kind of a spiritual suit. Right. And so really using also spirituality to manifest these opportunities or to walk me through the beginning of my journey.

Brigit Esselmont 42:35
Yeah. Awesome. Love it. Oh, yay. Thinking. I hope Emily doesn't get like the devil or something. got you a good one. All right. Breathe Easy. So for you, Emily, I have here the strength card. And it shows a beautiful woman holding this ferocious lion who also seems very tame in her arms. So Emily, what would you say I love that

Unknown Speaker 43:00
I am. Well, I

Emily Thompson 43:02
love that I can hold it all at bay. For sure. And I love that. And I love that I practice that as much as possible. I think there's a difference between having the ability to and then actually doing it. And I love that I can be friends with lions. If you want a few in your backyard, you need to tell us Do you see Kathleen's hair right now?

Kathleen Shannon 43:31
Definitely embodying the Leo necklace I'm wearing. She's wearing her lion necklace. Oh, man, I love that you always look so beautiful and graceful doing right?

Emily Thompson 43:41
Yeah, I can hold the line at bay and still look cute. I love it. That is such a good practice.

Brigit Esselmont 43:48
Yeah, imagine if you were doing that every day. And you're writing in your journal. Imagine that, like the love book that you just create with that, and even just that good Juju. And even if you do it with a friend, if you have an accountability partner, maybe say it about one another, or even with your husband or partner or you know, bestie as well, so many options, so much good Juju.

Emily Thompson 44:10
That's, that's great. I have not experienced that use of tarot cards before, but I think that will probably be one that I absolutely add to my tool belt.

Kathleen Shannon 44:19
I know even the how I was saying that I'm struggling with my everyday practice. I think part of it is that I want to have that but in a way that doesn't feel like I'm doing this big interpretation every single day and or a vague interpretation or you know, pulling a card and feeling vagueness around it I think that's a great practice for starting the day and just having a little bit more guidance or structure around how to do that one card poll. Thank you so much, Bridget, that was so much fun. Yay, my pleasure. And I have to admit, like I felt scared like just looking at the symbols and not pulling up but etoro.com to see what that card actually meant. But I also think that this is a great practice. If you are constantly referenced Seeing what your cards mean to get into looking at the symbols and really understanding what those mean to

Emily Thompson 45:05
you are, yeah, I can definitely see your deck being very helpful to people who struggle with interpreting it themselves, like taking out all the noise of a card and just focusing on what matters, I think, than yours, I think you have achieved your goal of making it as accessible to as many people as possible.

Kathleen Shannon 45:28
I know, I know that whenever I use it, I'm going to feel you there with me because you've done so much of the heavy lifting of deciding what to put in the cards and what to leave out. That it really helps me think, Okay, how would Bridgette translate this if she was sitting here chatting with me?

Brigit Esselmont 45:45
But can I can I throw this in? Can I encourage you not to do that?

Kathleen Shannon 45:52
You're right, that is like an anger, right? That is like an external

Brigit Esselmont 45:55
because I want I want you to get in connection with you. Right? I love that you're checking on beauty tarot.com. I feel very honored. I appreciate it. It's a great way to learn about the cards. And when we're doing something so personal, like what do I love about myself? All that just goes out the window, right? This is what like, I want you to push that away. And it's what do you see, when you look at those cards? What do you feel? What is it eliciting from you internally, because that's that's the idea that the idea of this exercise isn't to know what the right card is. It's not a test. It's more about for you to get in connection with yourself. And that's that's the important piece. And this is a really strong message for all kinds of tarot readings. I really want folks to know and trust themselves. This is not about getting it right. It is about giving you information and giving you access to your inner wisdom, your inner guidance system. That's the magic that beat not Did I get it right. Did he say? Was I right with

Kathleen Shannon 46:57
yours? So right? I just think that I personally adore you and love you so much. And I love your approach to Tarot that I just always want to have you sitting next to me. And I want to channel you during my readings and hear your beautiful voice and saying here's what this means. What do you think it means? Yeah, he has that voice. I'm gonna hear that. What do you think it means? I love that. Well, thank you so much. where can our listeners find the book

Brigit Esselmont 47:28
and the deck? Awesome. So everyday Tarot is available for pre order through until September and then hopefully it's on bookshelves everywhere that good books are sold. You can find out more at everyday Tarot, calm, you can watch the video about the book get a bit of more of a feel for it. And also we have a really neat offer for pre orders that if you do pre order, you'll also get access to my exclusive intuition development mini course as well. So lots of fun

Emily Thompson 48:01
night so I'm so glad that you have created this thing, this book and this deck both of which, for the purpose of getting everyone in touch with their intuition and using Tarot because I agree with you. I I think it's high time that people stop being offended by tarot cards, and instead use them to get in touch with themselves. So that we can all be living more mindfully and in tune with all that is good, please.

Kathleen Shannon 48:32
Alright, final question, Bridget. Can you talk about what makes you feel most boss that might be a moment? Or an experience that you've recently had that makes you feel most boss? Okay, so

Brigit Esselmont 48:47
the last few times that I've been on your show, I've given you a very like, soulful, heartfelt answer, which still holds to be true, right? And I was thinking overnight, what makes me what actually makes you feel really boss right now? And I'll tell you what, it's very materialistic ego driven answer, but it's booking business class tickets to the US for the book to our as a bit of a reward. And, you know, for that just re affirmation of whatever changed in my business. And so business class tickets all the way baby.

Emily Thompson 49:21
Yes, business class tickets. Every time I think is my next ball skull.

Kathleen Shannon 49:28
Right? People sometimes ask me when I'm coming to Australia, and I always say when I can afford to fly myself and my family first or business class.

Brigit Esselmont 49:39
And then I'll feel boss to my girls keep asking me Oh, Mommy, if you're going business class, can we go business class next time as a family? I'm like, no, not when it's four of us. No, because it's hard enough. You know, really like if I get quite worked up when I'm about to click the Buy Now button for the business class tickets just for myself. And I think I mentioned if you were doing this for a family, maybe In the future, who knows?

Kathleen Shannon 50:01
Well, I think that is the goal. All right, Bridget, thank you so much for joining us. As always, it is such a pleasure to chat with you. Oh, my pleasure, my honor. Hey, bosses, I want to tell you about the CEO day kit. The CEO day kit is 12 months of focus planning for your business in just one day. So Emily and I have packaged up the exact tools that we've been consistently using for years that have helped us grow from baby bosses to the CEOs of our own businesses. gain clarity, find focus, get momentum, prioritize your time, make better decisions, and become more self reliant with the CEO day kit. Go to courses that being boss club to learn more and see if it's a fit for you and your business.

Emily Thompson 50:52
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